Curse

Jebus · Jul 26, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Yeah, as the topic title says, my monk fails at GW in any aspect. It hasn't finished any campaign, doesn't have many titles (except the account based ones). I only used my monk as a farming character, therefore it only has decent equip/weps for farming.

However, I'm wanting to do more with this awesome profession. Starting in PvE, I'd like to gain more experience in monking. I'd need some things for that though. I'm not talking about low-level PvE here, I'm asking what's required for elite areas and end-game areas.

First of all,
decent weapons : Which weapons are a must-have for a PvE monk? Which shields/focuses etc?

Which armor? (Which looks nice?

) What runes/insignias etc..

What skills are must-haves? Which skills do I need to succeed in every area?
Which are some common, the most-used maybe, builds in PvE?

What else should I buy/unlock/get/..

Money is not a problem.

Thanks in advance

PS: You can laugh at my choice of PvE, I don't care. I enjoy playing PvE, and you can laugh at that as much as you want

Just know I won't care and you're wasting time.

Frenzied Insanity · Jul 26, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Well if you want to look good take FoW armour and Elite Kurzick armour (only if your monk is a female)
both armour sets dyed black

never use major and superior runes, stick with minor runes

This is a good build I use in PvE
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Mo/E_WoH_Hybrid

though I replace [GoLE] with [Guardian]

Tatile · Jul 26, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

If you want armour ideas, check out the screenshot threads 'Post Your Monk 1 and 2'.

I'll leave the rest up to actual monks (I'm a semi-monk).

Jebus · Jul 26, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Thanks, he's male.

I'll look into that build

. Which weapon sets should I use, and more in detail, which are some nice skins?

Abedeus · Jul 26, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Guardian in pve lol.

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Well if you want to look good take FoW armour and Elite Kurzick armour

If you want to look like a eBayer with too much money/time and with a very poor taste, buy fow armor. Maybe a pair of chaos gloves. I'm sure this will improve your monking skills.

LoD hybrid > WoH hybrid. AoE healing > single target in pve.

Tyla · Jul 26, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

^
Res on Monks is bad, but whatever.

Weapons:

40/40 healing, 40/20/20 staff, common shield set and high set. If you're tight on cash just get a +10AL vs. Fire shield for the time being. It shouldn't cost much to accumilate this.

Runes & Insig:

All minors and survivors. No point in radiants when you can just press F4 for your high set and switch back after casting.

Depending on the area, use Aegis or Guardian. If you're against big mobs, use Aegis. Small, Guardian. If there are no hexes / conditions, don't bother with that removal.

What I use is...

[word of healing][patient spirit][dismiss condition][cure hex][distracting shot][aegis][shield of absorption][spirit bond]

I just like D-Shot (It's awesome, doesn't require investment, no negative downsides... I just run it though, go with GoLE if you're going seriously in my opinion), use anything from GoLE to defensive stances for it, although GoLE would be best in terms of PvE. I just don't need the energy management from it.

MisterT69 · Jul 26, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

^D-shot??? If you wanna stop an enemy at least go smiting prayers and bring some sigs like signet of judgement or other smite skills. But unless you're fighting buttloads of undead like in SoO, stick w/the ub3r healing.

[healer's boon][glyph of lesser energy][heal party][cure hex][healing ribbon][seed of life][empty][resurrection chant] That's a good enough starter build for someone who still needs to get into the whole "monking of things". Once you get better, you can really start changing up builds, and bring some more hardcore skills like [divert hexes] or [glimmer of light], again, depending on the what the situation calls for. HB is good for general PVE though, and NM shouldn't be a problem for any monk running an HB bar.

Edit: I'm just saying, as good as D-shot is, if you've got a mesmer or BHA ranger or some sort of shutdown on your team, there isn't much of a need for a monk to go Mo/R and lose the ever popular [glyph of lesser energy]. Especially in PVE, if you're going sabway or something, your heroes are doing most of the work, so just sit back and put out the heals when necessary.

and yes, i made a mistake, i meant glimmer of light, not LoD ><

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Jul 26, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by MisterT69

^D-shot??? If you wanna stop an enemy at least go smiting prayers and bring some sigs like signet of judgement or other smite skills.

D-shot Is gewd. It can take out important skills for 20 seconds, It's fine on a monk as long as your only using it when needed. I don't remember smiting prayers being able to do this :P

general pve = WoH hybrid.

As for Elite areas and endgame stuff your gonna be asked to run hb and heal overpowered bears, So you'll be needing:

[Healer's boon]
[Heal party]
[orison of healing] or [patient spirit] or [ethereal light]
[dwayna's kiss]
[healing seed]
[seed of life]
[glyph of lesser energy]
[Resurrection Chant] or [rebirth] or [restore life] or [Renew Life]

Personally I don't like HB , But if you want to get a party easy for Elite areas / missions then you'll need to run it , for ursan pugs anyway >.<

as far as weps go, 40/40 set which you'll be using mostly , defensive set with a shield that has some sort of armor vs xx inscription, and a high set if you feel the need.

But whatever you do...do NOT buy Fow , it's common and tasteless.

Tyla · Jul 26, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

HB is only good in PvE if you want to play brainlessly.

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Originally Posted by MisterT69

^D-shot??? If you wanna stop an enemy at least go smiting prayers and bring some sigs like signet of judgement or other smite skills.

Maybe I would if it was a 20 second shutdown of a skill, I wanted to waste my elite slot and go into a sub-par line when I have an elite skill without the golden border.

Oh, and D-Shot on a Monk is pure awesome.

Burst Cancel · Jul 26, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Are you guys for ****ing serious?

For normal mode, bring WoH and the rest of your bar hardly matters.

For HM make sure somebody has PS. Spirit Bond doesn't cut it.

And [email protected]

Introverted Dimensions · Jul 26, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

I was in the same situation as you. Though I ditched my monk and made a ranger, Loving the game a hell of alot more now.

For armor, might i suggest the monk primeval armor. It looks awesome.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Image...al_armor_m.jpg

Div · Jul 26, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Anyone who disses d-shot on monks is completely clueless. That is all.

Daenara · Jul 26, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40

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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

Are you guys for ****ing serious?

And [email protected]

^ tbh.

For PvE again your weapon sets rarely matter. If you're running aegis, bring a 20/20/20% enchant staff. Other than that.. whatever goes. It's not really going to make a difference to your survival.

Age · Jul 27, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by Tyla

^
Res on Monks is bad, but whatever.

Weapons:

40/40 healing, 40/20/20 staff, common shield set and high set. If you're tight on cash just get a +10AL vs. Fire shield for the time being. It shouldn't cost much to accumilate this.

Runes & Insig:

All minors and survivors. No point in radiants when you can just press F4 for your high set and switch back after casting.

Depending on the area, use Aegis or Guardian. If you're against big mobs, use Aegis. Small, Guardian. If there are no hexes / conditions, don't bother with that removal.

What I use is...

[word of healing][patient spirit][dismiss condition][cure hex][distracting shot][aegis][shield of absorption][spirit bond]

I just like D-Shot, use anything from GoLE to defensive stances for it, although GoLE would be best in terms of PvE. I just don't need the energy management from it.

Why D-shot a res would be better at this stage of the game with all the bad pugs out there and to the OP if you Hero/Hench it smiting is fine?You want to learn how to play Monk go to a mid level and learn from there.

Eddie Frenzy Spam · Jul 27, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by Da Rk Bl Ad E

D-shot Is gewd. It can take out important skills for 20 seconds, It's fine on a monk as long as your only using it when needed. I don't remember smiting prayers being able to do this :P

Dshot is good, so is apply poison, maybe we should bring that as well! Hell! as long as you're only taking out your bow and hitting things when you're not healing it's fine right? Actually RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO that, let's go Mo/W and take frenzy! frenzy is an amazing skill, as long as you're only frenzy'ing when you're not healing it's fine right? Oh, oh, oh! Let's take bulls strike!!! Bull's strike is such a good skill, as long as we're only using it when we're not healing right?

I'm sure by now you get my point....

Dshot may be good, but it's just not the monks job to be dshotting stuff, if you want to do that take a ranger, or a mesmer, it's their job to shut stuff down, not the monks.

Winterclaw · Jul 27, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

LoD hardcore? Maybe back when it was the meta. It's okay in some situations, but WoH is pretty much the best healing elite right now.

Since I've never played a ranger I've never really thought about D-shot on my monk but looking at it now, it seems pretty good if you are great at multitasking or in a situation where you can easily keep an eye on things.

Tyla · Jul 27, 2008, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by Eddie

Dshot may be good, but it's just not the monks job to be dshotting stuff, if you want to do that take a ranger, or a mesmer, it's their job to shut stuff down, not the monks.

Okay, okay!

I just use it because I copy Tommy!

Although it's quite effective I must say.

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Originally Posted by Age

Why D-shot a res would be better at this stage of the game with all the bad pugs out there and to the OP if you Hero/Hench it smiting is fine?You want to learn how to play Monk go to a mid level and learn from there.

Even if I'm pissing around, anything is better on a Monk bar than a res.

Oh, and lolpugs.

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Originally Posted by Burst

Spirit Bond doesn't cut it.

I usually have a hero take that and I micro it. (PSpirit that is)

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Since I've never played a ranger I've never really thought about D-shot on my monk but looking at it now, it seems pretty good if you are great at multitasking or in a situation where you can easily keep an eye on things.

To be honest, I just use it. Cheap decent interrupt, Tommy uses it and I love interrupting stuff.

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Originally Posted by Daenara

For PvE again your weapon sets rarely matter. If you're running aegis, bring a 20/20/20% enchant staff. Other than that.. whatever goes. It's not really going to make a difference to your survival.

Something I learned on an Asda ad!

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Originally Posted by ASDA!

Every little helps!

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Originally Posted by Eddie

Dshot is good, so is apply poison, maybe we should bring that as well! Hell! as long as you're only taking out your bow and hitting things when you're not healing it's fine right? Actually RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO that, let's go Mo/W and take frenzy! frenzy is an amazing skill, as long as you're only frenzy'ing when you're not healing it's fine right? Oh, oh, oh! Let's take bulls strike!!! Bull's strike is such a good skill, as long as we're only using it when we're not healing right?

I understand what you're saying, but it's PvE and anything works! Go with another prot, Seed of Life, GoLE or whatever of you're going seriously though. Oh, and I actually used Bull's Strike on my Monk in AB once. Funny stuff.

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Jul 27, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

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Originally Posted by eddie the reaper

Dshot is good, so is apply poison, maybe we should bring that as well! Hell! as long as you're only taking out your bow and hitting things when you're not healing it's fine right? Actually RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO that, let's go Mo/W and take frenzy! frenzy is an amazing skill, as long as you're only frenzy'ing when you're not healing it's fine right? Oh, oh, oh! Let's take bulls strike!!! Bull's strike is such a good skill, as long as we're only using it when we're not healing right?

I'm sure by now you get my point....

Dshot may be good, but it's just not the monks job to be dshotting stuff, if you want to do that take a ranger, or a mesmer, it's their job to shut stuff down, not the monks.

One word

PvE

And btw tyla, Are you in love with tommy by any chance? :P

glacialphoenix · Jul 27, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Armor: Why don't you take a look at the wiki as well and see what skins you like? (Luxon doesn't look too bad on a male monk imho).

You are also definitely going to need prot in HM. 100%. Even if it's something as simple as a single [Protective Spirit].

About rez: seriously, if you're playing with people, ASK them first. Yeah, there's a lot of debate going on about whether monks should bring rez. Frankly though, it's no fun going into a party and finding out, 'hey, NOBODY brought a rez?' In general, if you're monking for ursans, bring a rez. They expect you to, anyway. Some of them don't even think of bringing their own rez just in case the monks die. --;

Speaking of ursans, you'll need [Healer's Boon] if you monk for them, especially if you PUG. Chances are they'll pitch a fit if it's not OMFG WIKI, so you'll have to run HB.

I use all minor runes on my monk, because - and this is especially true if I'm playing with ursans - I'm squishy, and I want to be able to survive to heal. (Currently at 605 hp 52 energy, for the record.)

Magikarp · Jul 27, 2008, 04:35 AM // 04:35

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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

Are you guys for ****ing serious?

For normal mode, bring WoH and the rest of your bar hardly matters.

For HM make sure somebody has PS. Spirit Bond doesn't cut it.

And [email protected]

yeah seriously.. whats going on in this thread? people making fun of dshot is possibly the funniest thing i've heard in a while too lol. If im not using a secondary in pve or pvp, and i can squeeze it in, i almost always do.. on like... anything. just swap to bow and laugh.

as for the OP.. for a beginner, i recommend just using a basic WoH anything. Pat Spirit, Prot spirit, WoH, SoA= win. liek.. surslee.